Comments on: Uninspired methods of saving Newspapers, Part III http://www.sandrewswann.com/blog/2009/07/uninspired-methods-of-saving-newspapers-part-iii.html thoughts and opinions by author s. andrew swann Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:14:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: ryan Costa http://www.sandrewswann.com/blog/2009/07/uninspired-methods-of-saving-newspapers-part-iii.html#comment-6598 ryan Costa Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:42:28 +0000 http://www.sandrewswann.com/?p=1661#comment-6598 electricity is great. federal and state regulations have proven necessary for coal plants to install exhaust filtering tech, and preventing inadequate nuclear power plant safeguards. natural gas powered electrical generating stations are nice too. there are many technologies for producing paper and then printing stuff on it without as much pollution. the industry consistently refused to impliment them and lobbied hard against pollution control. my copy of "the great outdoor fight" was printed in China. World of War Craft combines the reality of an Opium Den with the behavior of a rat repeatedly pressing a button for a food pellet. at least, that is how I felt about myself after completing Secret of Mana, Lufia I, Lufia II, and river city ransom. electricity is great. federal and state regulations have proven necessary for coal plants to install exhaust filtering tech, and preventing inadequate nuclear power plant safeguards.

natural gas powered electrical generating stations are nice too.

there are many technologies for producing paper and then printing stuff on it without as much pollution. the industry consistently refused to impliment them and lobbied hard against pollution control. my copy of “the great outdoor fight” was printed in China.

World of War Craft combines the reality of an Opium Den with the behavior of a rat repeatedly pressing a button for a food pellet. at least, that is how I felt about myself after completing Secret of Mana, Lufia I, Lufia II, and river city ransom.

]]> By: Steve Buchheit http://www.sandrewswann.com/blog/2009/07/uninspired-methods-of-saving-newspapers-part-iii.html#comment-6330 Steve Buchheit Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:06:04 +0000 http://www.sandrewswann.com/?p=1661#comment-6330 Ryan, I guess you've never actually visited a print shop or paper mill. I work in a commercial print shop and know all the crap we use here. And the environmental pollution (including our own exposure and what is on the paper) is down considerably from just a decade ago. And you never, ever, want to live downstream from a paper mill. That industry has also cleaned up it's act, but you still don't want to be there. As an aside, I live among the Amish, so I've seen the "world of no power" and I've gotta tell ya, 1) it ain't pretty and 2) even the Amish are reliant on technology (in Ohio they, as a group, have the largest installed base of solar power in the state). So going into a holistic rant on the benefits of Ludditism is really quite out of touch. Ryan, I guess you’ve never actually visited a print shop or paper mill. I work in a commercial print shop and know all the crap we use here. And the environmental pollution (including our own exposure and what is on the paper) is down considerably from just a decade ago. And you never, ever, want to live downstream from a paper mill. That industry has also cleaned up it’s act, but you still don’t want to be there. As an aside, I live among the Amish, so I’ve seen the “world of no power” and I’ve gotta tell ya, 1) it ain’t pretty and 2) even the Amish are reliant on technology (in Ohio they, as a group, have the largest installed base of solar power in the state). So going into a holistic rant on the benefits of Ludditism is really quite out of touch.

]]> By: S Andrew Swann http://www.sandrewswann.com/blog/2009/07/uninspired-methods-of-saving-newspapers-part-iii.html#comment-6318 S Andrew Swann Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:30:29 +0000 http://www.sandrewswann.com/?p=1661#comment-6318 You have a surprisingly narrow view of the internet, both as a business opportunity and as a communications medium. I presume you've never bought anything on Amazon, used Skype for video chats, collaborated with anyone using Google Docs, used twitter for anything, never once gone to iTunes, listened to a podcast or found a free kitten on Craig's List, used an on-line order form to get a order in for pickup from the local pizza joint, played WoW, or used a Linked-In profile to network with business associates. . . You have a surprisingly narrow view of the internet, both as a business opportunity and as a communications medium. I presume you’ve never bought anything on Amazon, used Skype for video chats, collaborated with anyone using Google Docs, used twitter for anything, never once gone to iTunes, listened to a podcast or found a free kitten on Craig’s List, used an on-line order form to get a order in for pickup from the local pizza joint, played WoW, or used a Linked-In profile to network with business associates. . .

]]> By: ryan Costa http://www.sandrewswann.com/blog/2009/07/uninspired-methods-of-saving-newspapers-part-iii.html#comment-6315 ryan Costa Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:49:47 +0000 http://www.sandrewswann.com/?p=1661#comment-6315 These "dead media" business models continue to subsidize most of the content of the internet. Pornography and blogs most people don't care about make up the rest. Burn a years worth of newspapers. Now burn your desktop tower and monitor. which produces the most pollution. the power goes out: an old encyclopedia set or collection of popular mechanics magazines is much more useful to have around. the most popular draw of computers and the internet for most consumers has been "free music", pornography, and watching videos on youtube and the like. the software monopolists continue to push "updates" on consumers that render their hardware obsolete. the hardware goes into the landfill, or it goes to china where peasants pick out the copper and rare metals in backyard rendering cauldrons. the big clouds of toxic waste from this hopefully dissipate before making it halfway back across the pacific ocean. These “dead media” business models continue to subsidize most of the content of the internet. Pornography and blogs most people don’t care about make up the rest.

Burn a years worth of newspapers. Now burn your desktop tower and monitor. which produces the most pollution. the power goes out: an old encyclopedia set or collection of popular mechanics magazines is much more useful to have around.

the most popular draw of computers and the internet for most consumers has been “free music”, pornography, and watching videos on youtube and the like.

the software monopolists continue to push “updates” on consumers that render their hardware obsolete. the hardware goes into the landfill, or it goes to china where peasants pick out the copper and rare metals in backyard rendering cauldrons. the big clouds of toxic waste from this hopefully dissipate before making it halfway back across the pacific ocean.

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